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Last Known Survivor – MG 18/80 Six deluxe Saloon MkII

Between 1930 and 1932 MG built 236 18/80 Mk II’s with heavier frames and softer springs than the earlier Mk I’s which eventually replaced the Mk I which had been manufactured between 1928 and 1931.

MG 18/80 Six deluxe Saloon Mk II, Bristol Classic Car Show

Of those 236 Mk II’s 50 were deluxe Saloons.

MG 18/80 Six deluxe Saloon Mk II, Bristol Classic Car Show

Only 25 18/80 Six Mk II’s are known to exist, one of them is the prototype featured here a couple of weeks ago which now has a later Tigress style body, and another is the Six Saloon featured last week.

MG 18/80 Six deluxe Saloon Mk II, Bristol Classic Car Show

Today’s featured 1931 model is the only known top of the range 18/80 Six deluxe Saloon Mk II known to exist.

MG 18/80 Six deluxe Saloon Mk II, Bristol Classic Car Show

It was completely rebuilt between 2005 and 2007 and restored to it’s original factory colour scheme.

MG 18/80 Six deluxe Saloon Mk II, Bristol Classic Car Show

Since restoration it has been regularly used on rallies and tours of Europe.

Thanks for joining me on this “Last Known Survivor” edition of “Gettin’ a li’l psycho on tyres”, next week I’ll be rounding out the recent Tuesday features on early MG’s with a look at the oldest MG known to exist, meantime I hope you will join me for a continental curiosity tomorrow. Don’t forget to come back now !

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More Strength & Softer Springs – MG 18/80 Six Saloon Mk II

MG 18/80 Six Mk 1, Bristol Classic Car Show

Rather confusingly MG marketed both the MG 18/80 Six Mk I, featured a couple of weeks ago, and Mk II, featured today, simultaneously from 1929 to 1931.

MG 18/80 Six Mk 1, Bristol Classic Car Show

The 18/80 Six Mk 1 was developed from the still born Morris Light Six project, with a much sturdier chassis, the first to be designed by MG rather than inherited from Morris.

MG 18/80 Six Mk 1, Bristol Classic Car Show

Unfortunately many of the painstaking chassis details like the MG motifs set into the aluminium bulkhead brackets were lost once the bodies had been affixed.

MG 18/80 Six Mk 1, Bristol Classic Car Show

The motor was derived from the failed Morris Light Six but featured a new all in one crank case and cylinder block casting with a separate cylinder head. The motor made use of the then new shell type big end and main bearings for smooth and quiet running.

MG 18/80 Six Mk 1, Bristol Classic Car Show

The 60 hp 18/80 Six Mk 1 is said to have been capable of out accelerating comparable models with good racing reputations from both Lagonda and Alvis, however the performance advantage was lost on the 18/80 Mk II which was built on an even sturdier chassis with a wider track that added weight which was not made up by any improvement in engine performance.

MG 18/80 Six Mk 1, Bristol Classic Car Show

The Mk I was £100 cheaper than the Mk II which made the latter car all the harder to sell despite it’s four speed gearbox, sturdier construction and softer springs. The 1930 model seen here is thought to be one of just 3 MK II’s known to have survived.

Thanks for joining me on this “More Strength & Softer Springs” edition of “Gettin’ a li’l psycho on tyres”, I hope you will join me for an independence day edition again tomorrow. Don’t forget to come back now !

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Continental Tourer – MG 18/80 Six Saloonette Mk I

Today’s featured MG 18/80 Six was through University Motors of, the then very fashionable, Park Lane, London W1 in 1931 for £625 painted black and cream.

MG 18/80 Six Salonette MkI, Bristol Classic Car Show

Technically this car is similar to the Tigress bodied 18/80 featured a couple of weeks ago with a 2468cc / 150 cui six cylinder motor that gives an 80 mph potential.

MG 18/80 Six Salonette MkI, Bristol Classic Car Show

The history of this particular car is unknown between its original sale and the 1960’s when it resurfaced several times as it changed ownership. Since it’s restoration in the 1970’s it has been used for touring in the UK and on the Continent.

Thanks for joining me on this “Continental Tourer” edition of “Gettin’ a li’l psycho on tyres”, I hope you will loin me tomorrow when I’ll be looking at a classic Messerschmitt. Don’t forget to get to come back now !

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Hudson Commercial – Terraplane Six Cab Pickup Express

A couple of weeks ago I was ferreting around for answers to questions I had about the Hudson Super Six Special I featured a couple of weeks ago, on the Hudson Forum, when much to my delight surprise I found out that Hudson had marketed a pick up truck under the Terraplane brand between 1932 and 1939.

Terraplane Pick Up, Wayne Grafen

Wayne Graefen found this example with the standard Detwiler pick up body in McMinnville, Portland Oregon belonging to Hudson collector Mr Robert (Bob) Harbaugh in 1985 and purchased it taking the photo above with Mrs Harbaugh standing in front of the traillored pick up.

Terraplane Pick Up, Wayne Grafen

Over the next 18 months Wayne took all the paint off replaced a wooden door hinge pillar and procured some missing parts before painting the truck and getting the bumper bars rechromed. Wayne then sold the truck to his business partner Press Kale who over the following two years had the stock flat head 212 cui 6 cylinder motor and 3 speed manual transmission rebuilt.

Terraplane Pick Up, Wayne Grafen

Press did a deal with Coker Tire Co. who used the Terraplane Pick Up on their SEMA stand in Las Vegas in exchange for some white wall tyres. Wayne tells me that the 1/2 ton truck is still 100% stock including the vintage 6 volt electrical system and the cable operated mechanical brakes.

Alex Burr at the Hudson Forum reckons around 1281 commercial Terraplanes were shipped of all types including pick ups, vans, and bare commercial chassis which were shipped to body shops for full custom bodies.

My thanks to Wayne Graefen for sharing the Terraplanes story & photographs and to Alex Burr for the production volumes of the Terraplane commercial vehicles.

Thanks for joining me on this Hudson Commercial edition of ‘Gettin’ a li’l psycho on tyres’ I hope you will join me again tomorrow for a look at a vintage racing MG. Don’t forget to come back now !

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Hudson Super Six Special

While out watching the vintage racers negotiate Prescott and Loton Park 18 months ago I caught some snaps of this 1917 Hudson Super Six racer being driven by James Collins.

Hudson Super Six, VSCC Prescott

The Hudson Super Six is powered by a 4700 cc / 299 cui straight six fitted with one of the earliest a balanced crwankshafts. James car is fitted with a radiator cowling that is said to have come from a Peugeot.

In 1917 Hudson built four 2100lb racing versions of there Super Six models, called Super Six Specials, these featured stock frames that had been shortened and lightened, blue printed 115 hp motors with larger valves and ports, high lift camshafts and light weight pistons along with a two carb manifold.

Hudson Super Six, VSCC Loton Park

The Super Six Specials were taken by special railway cars that served as rolling workshops to tracks for Ira Vail, Billy Taylor, Ralph Mulford and AH Patterson to drive the cars up to August 1917 when the Great War required resources be used elsewhere.

Major wins were recorded at Omaha, Tacoma and Minneapolis with many placings and wins at minor events during the war shortened season.

In 1919 four of the 1917 Super Six Specials were entered privately for the Indy 500, Canadian Vail and US driver Ora Haibe qualified 10th and 26th respectively finishing the race in the same order 8th and 14th.

Hudson Super Six, VSCC Loton Park

From what I have been able to gather it would appear James car is a tribute to the 1917 Super Six Specials.

My thanks to Hudson Forum members paulrhd29nz for identifying the radiator cowling, and oldhudsons for pointing in the direction of Don Butlers excellent History of Hudson.

Thanks for joining me on this Super Six edition of ‘Gettin’ a li’l psycho on tyres’, I hope you will join me again for Ferrari Friday tomorrow. Don’t forget to come back now !

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Comic Discovery – Hudson Suburban Sedan

Back on Independence Day during the Rally organised by the Bristol Pegasus Motor Club I came across this delightful 1935 Hudson, unfortunately I did not get any details about the car from the owner at the time so I have had another carcaeology session to discover more.

Hudson Big Six, Model 53

This Hudson chassis #533370, with blue body work probably marketed as Surban Sedan model, was one of just four vehicles first registered in Dundee, where the strap line reads City of Discovery, on the 7th of May 1935.

Hudson Big Six, Model 35

The Hudson was registered to a Mr R D Low of Westleigh, Number 9 Nevill Street, Downfield, Dundee alongside a Morris Saloon, BSA Motorcycle and a 3 ton Commer Coal merchants truck.

Hudson Big Six, Model 35

Robert Duncan Low is known to have been a journalist to the Dundee City Archive, but as we know journalism can cover a multitude of sins and it would appear that Robert was no gum shoe rather he was employed by DC Thompson & Co in Dundee where he was responsible for launching a number of publications aimed at children including Adventure (1921) The Rover (1922) The Wizzard (1923) The Skipper (1930) and The Hotspur (1933).

Hudson Big Six, Model 35

In 1937 Robert became managing editor at DC Thompson and over saw the launch of The Dandy and the following year the Beano for which with artist Ken Reid he created Roger the Dodger in 1953, when he also oversaw the launch of The Topper. Earlier in his career Robert is also credited with co creating the Scottish vernacular comic strips Oor Wullie and The Broons with illustrator Dudley Dexter Watkins.

Hudson Big Six, Model 35

It is not at present known how long Robert Low kept this Hudson he died in 1980 aged 85. This car is reported to have been ‘knocking around the North West of England in the 1990’s’ before it was offered at auction in 2005 when the body was painted maroon and sold for £1,500. The history of the cars original ownership outlined above appears to have been unknown to the auctioneers at the time when the car was noted to have had 4 previous owners with 92,275 miles shown on the clock and the model name was given as Big Six Saloon, the chassis number indicated the car would have been known as a 53 model at the Hudson factory from whence it was probably sent as a knockdown kit for assembly in Brentford west of London.

Hudson Big Six, Model 35

According to the best source I have available 29,476 cars were shipped and it is thought that number included the knockdown kits.

My thanks to John MacDonald form ‘oldcarandtruckpictures.com‘, Jon B, Terraplane 33, Geoff C NZ, Alex ‘Hudsontech’ Burr, Old Fogey UK and Paul Butler over at Hudson Forum who helped me identify this car and finally to Richard Cullen at the Dundee City Archive who provided the final clue as to the original owners identity.

Thanks for joining me on this comic edition of “Gettin’ a li’l psycho on tyres” I hope you will join me again tomorrow. Don’t forget to come back now !

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Interim Model – Rover 75 P3

In 1878 the Rover Company was founded as Starley & Sutton Co. of Coventry which by 1885 had developed the template for the modern bicycle in the form of the Rover Safety Bicycle.

Rover 75 P3, Atwell Wilsom MM

From 1904 still using the Rover Marque brand the company started building motor cars and motorcycles.

Rover 75 P3, Atwell Wilsom MM

After World War 2 Rover moved to it’s Solihull factory where it had engaged in building aircraft for the war effort, since it’s car plant in Coventry had been wiped out by bombing during the hostilities. The interim P3, launched in 1948, was Rovers first post war model.

Rover 75 P3, Atwell Wilsom MM

The Rover 75 version of the P3 was powered by a novel new six cylinder motor that featured overhead inlet valves and side exhaust valves that had been developed prior to the commencement of hostilities in 1939.

Rover 75 P3, Atwell Wilsom MM

The styling combined elements of the pre war Rover 12 and 16 but only the Rover 12 wings and bonnet were carried over from the narrower earlier designs.

Rover 75 P3, Atwell Wilsom MM

The unitary monocoque design, requiring no independent chassis, featured independent front suspension and hybrid hydraulic / mechanical brakes.

Rover 75 P3, Atwell Wilsom MM

This the 75 body style seen here was known as a light six saloon and cost a relatively expensive £1106, £ 26 more than the similar 4 cylinder ‘Sports Saloon’ known as the Rover 60.

Rover 75 P3, Atwell Wilsom MM

From 1948 – 1949 7,837 Rover 75’s were produced before the all new P4 vehicle was introduced.

Rover 75 P3, Atwell Wilsom MM

The engine and gearbox of the P3 formed the basis of the very first agricultural all terrain ‘Land Rover’ conceived in 1947. Note the vehicle above built in times of material austerity features a cyclops third head light but only one wing mirror.

This particular P3 can be seen at the Atwell Wilson Motor Museum in Calne.

Thanks for joining me on this ‘overhead and side valve’ edition of ‘Gettin’ a lil psycho on tyres’, I hope you’ll join me again tomorrow. Don’t forget to come back now !

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